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Item4287: Usability: Add DESCRIPTION setting to group topics

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Small usability thingy: Add a
  • Set DESCRIPTION = XYZ group, with access to all FOO and BAR content
setting to group topics and show them in Main.TWikiGroups' %GROUPS%. This gives a good description what groups are used for, and reduces the risk of errors in access control settings.

Imported groups from LDAP do not have a description; the description field will simply be empty for LDAP groups.

For testing I replacing %GROUPS% with this SEARCH on a TWiki installation:

%SEARCH{
  "* Set GROUP ="
  topic="*Group"
  nonoise="on"
  format="| <b>[[$topic]]</b> %BR% <span style=\"font-size: 80%; color: gray\"> $pattern(.*?\* Set DESCRIPTION = ?([^\n\r]*).*) </span> | $pattern(.*?\* Set GROUP = ?([^\n\r]*).*) |"
}%

This results in the following screenshot of groups with description:
image5.png

-- TWiki:Main/PeterThoeny - 23 Jun 2007

This is a desireable feature, but is also a fairly extensive code change impacting the way groups are stored. Please raise a topic in Codev to discuss e.g. TWiki:Codev.AddDescriptionFieldToGroups.

CC

It would probably be simpler code if its not group specific.

By adding something like %META::TOPICSUMMARY{}% for all and any topic which defaults to the first 50 char of the topic (or whatever $summary uses) we could coalesce all the format="" parameters in TML, and thus do some clever stuff.

-- TWiki:Main.SvenDowideit - 23 Jun 2007

The first x chars would not be a good solution for this case, it should be one sentence, similar to what we have with the plugin short-description.

-- TWiki:Main.PeterThoeny - 24 Jun 2007

For my usecase (no LDAP), I can use the SEARCH instead of the GROUPS tp get the desired result.

-- TWiki:Main.PeterThoeny - 24 Jun 2007

i fear you misunderstand - the first x would only be the default. in your Groups topics you can intentionally SET that value to your description.

point being, its a useful concept for more than just Groups.

-- TWiki:Main.SvenDowideit - 24 Jun 2007

Ah, yes, good point.

-- TWiki:Main.PeterThoeny - 24 Jun 2007

seems odd to be 'Waiting for feedback' on a topic, when its not been created - I'm guessing that while its an interesting idea, no-one's needing it right now?

-- SvenDowideit - 03 Sep 2007

Why not have a TWikiForm instead of all these GROUP and DESCRIPTION variables.

-- TWiki:Main.MichaelDaum - 03 Sep 2007

No interest, so I'm marking it No Action. Suggest you raise the idea of a "topic summary" field in Codev, since that seems a logical approach.

CC

It is frustrating to have usability suggestions discarded because "nobody needs it" and "nobody is interest." How about moving TWiki slowly but surely out of the geek realm?

-- TWiki:Main.PeterThoeny - 16 Sep 2007

I agree that the best place to catch a sponsor for this issue would be in Codev.

-- TWiki:Main.SteffenPoulsen - 16 Sep 2007

I find it unfortunate that real usability enhancements get discarded. TWIKI.NET focuses on usability enhancements; it means that TWIKI.NET's distribution gets out of sync with the open source distribution, although I'd strongly prefer to keep it in sync.

-- TWiki:Main.PeterThoeny - 23 Nov 2007

I think at least 3 people have pointed to making a Codev topic to discuss more flexible approaches, as there are much better usability enhancements possible (as you and I discussed back in June above).

-- TWiki:Main.SvenDowideit - 23 Nov 2007

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Summary Usability: Add DESCRIPTION setting to group topics
ReportedBy TWiki:Main.PeterThoeny
Codebase ~twiki4
SVN Range TWiki-4.1.2, Thu, 21 Jun 2007, build 14235
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Priority Enhancement
CurrentState No Action Required
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PNGpng image5.png r1 manage 13.1 K 2007-06-23 - 04:33 UnknownUser Screenshot of groups with description
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Topic revision: r14 - 2007-11-23 - SvenDowideit
 
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